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	<title>Comments on: FTB and the conspiracy to defraud/ Drawing a line under this pointless crap</title>
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		<title>By: A Year in Review: The Three Stooges of Atheism &#124; Christopher&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Year in Review: The Three Stooges of Atheism &#124; Christopher&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in the atheist community&#8217; on skepchick and Freefromthoughtblogs, which involved a &#8216;hack&#8217; into the FfTB backbiting channel (that was some scary cyberpunk shit: all the hacker had to do was [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the atheist community&#8217; on skepchick and Freefromthoughtblogs, which involved a &#8216;hack&#8217; into the FfTB backbiting channel (that was some scary cyberpunk shit: all the hacker had to do was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topically applied medication is waterproof and easy to<br />
apply. The flea is considered to be one of the most common parasites that<br />
affect pets. Use of this medicine should be avoided on pregnant and nursing animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dogsi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure he uses the term secret instead of private because it matches the conspiratorial tone of his narrative.  Hyperbole.  The reality is that TF did nothing legally or morally wrong.  However, if they do steal TF&#039;s money, FTB is doing something both morally and legally wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure he uses the term secret instead of private because it matches the conspiratorial tone of his narrative.  Hyperbole.  The reality is that TF did nothing legally or morally wrong.  However, if they do steal TF&#8217;s money, FTB is doing something both morally and legally wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the uniform for the new A+ movement.

https://killerrats.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/uniform-for-the-new-a-atheists/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the uniform for the new A+ movement.</p>
<p><a href="https://killerrats.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/uniform-for-the-new-a-atheists/" rel="nofollow">https://killerrats.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/uniform-for-the-new-a-atheists/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Copyleft</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Copyleft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, it looks like atheism now has its very own Tea Party, called &quot;Atheism+.&quot; They are the owners and arbiters of all that is Right and Good (because they SAY they are)... and anyone who disagrees with them is necessarily Wrong and Bad (because they&#039;re disagreeing with what is Right and Good, get it?).

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2207/comment-page-1/

This approach will work SO well with self-identified rationalists and skeptics.... &quot;agree with us and sign this loyalty oath because We Are Right.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it looks like atheism now has its very own Tea Party, called &#8220;Atheism+.&#8221; They are the owners and arbiters of all that is Right and Good (because they SAY they are)&#8230; and anyone who disagrees with them is necessarily Wrong and Bad (because they&#8217;re disagreeing with what is Right and Good, get it?).</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2207/comment-page-1/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2207/comment-page-1/</a></p>
<p>This approach will work SO well with self-identified rationalists and skeptics&#8230;. &#8220;agree with us and sign this loyalty oath because We Are Right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Porter (@FetchQuesting)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Porter (@FetchQuesting)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t see how PZ and FTB can be defended here honestly. If I had access to, (legitimately or otherwise) documents that exposed the awful behavior of people like PZ I would have no qualms &quot;doc dropping&quot; it. Frankly that&#039;s just good journalism to me (isn&#039;t that how we saw Nixon for who he was?). Exposing people for who they really are, there&#039;s nothing wrong with that at all. Like TF says, he has nothing to hide, but clearly PZ and his gang do or they wouldn&#039;t be so upset about it. Oh no...they found out I&#039;m actually an ass hole! Yes we did PZ, yes we did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see how PZ and FTB can be defended here honestly. If I had access to, (legitimately or otherwise) documents that exposed the awful behavior of people like PZ I would have no qualms &#8220;doc dropping&#8221; it. Frankly that&#8217;s just good journalism to me (isn&#8217;t that how we saw Nixon for who he was?). Exposing people for who they really are, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that at all. Like TF says, he has nothing to hide, but clearly PZ and his gang do or they wouldn&#8217;t be so upset about it. Oh no&#8230;they found out I&#8217;m actually an ass hole! Yes we did PZ, yes we did.</p>
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		<title>By: The Psychotic Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Psychotic Atheist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What suspicions?  How were they justified?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What suspicions?  How were they justified?</p>
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		<title>By: Micheal49</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Micheal49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does all this make me want to drag out all of the old Gilbert &amp; Sullivan DVDs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does all this make me want to drag out all of the old Gilbert &amp; Sullivan DVDs?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kingsford Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Kingsford Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made a basic mistake in that comment, and withdraw it unreservedly and entirely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a basic mistake in that comment, and withdraw it unreservedly and entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: True Colors</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[True Colors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, he has e-mails where people are discussing what to do with the money.  This sort of conversation is common.  I regularly get e-mails from my colleagues who, in frustration, say some version of, &quot;screw that, they can go fuck themselves.&quot;

Ultimately the payment gets made, so just because there&#039;s an e-mail that suggests not paying him, that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;ve made an institutional decision.

TF has some e-mails evincing that the people he tried to piss off were, in fact, pissed off.  That anyone finds this remarkable is remarkable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he has e-mails where people are discussing what to do with the money.  This sort of conversation is common.  I regularly get e-mails from my colleagues who, in frustration, say some version of, &#8220;screw that, they can go fuck themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ultimately the payment gets made, so just because there&#8217;s an e-mail that suggests not paying him, that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;ve made an institutional decision.</p>
<p>TF has some e-mails evincing that the people he tried to piss off were, in fact, pissed off.  That anyone finds this remarkable is remarkable.</p>
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