Dawahfilms “Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives”


    Dawahfilms was always a pretty nasty piece of work, but his latest comments show a lust for violence that is really very unsettling.

Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives.
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    The very tone of this paragraph is the presumption that Afghanistan would be better off without ‘the enemy’.  Well of course, but who is the enemy, ‘the West’ or Islam?  Well what about the Afghan ‘brothers and sisters’ that remember life under the Islamic rule, under the Taliban and want nothing to do with it?

Remember how great things were when we had Islamic Rule under the Taliban?

Those who see Afghanistan at a cross roads where it can choose to join the rest of the civilized world, or can revert to Taliban style Islamic law. After all, Afghanistan has already seen Islamic law for 5 years, and it transformed the country for the better, right?.. oh wait..

      The ’16’ dawahfilms refers to are from when a US service member went loco and went on a shooting spree killing many women and children (hardly a ringing endorsement!).  Not really a government sanctioned action to base a counter-policy on.  Similarly the idea that ‘the enemy’ (America?) who is curiously the very same government that Dawahfilms CHOOSES to remain a citizen of, is actually targeting families to ‘make them pay’ is a willfully puerile interpretation of  the US foreign policy.  IF the US had as its goal to kill families, I think they have the military capability to enact such a policy with greater efficiency than to merely kill 16 people.  To even suggest that ‘making their families pay’ is the intent of the US suggests a willfully malicious mis-interpretation of facts.  Further to do it as a motivation to ‘make your enemies pay’ with the stated goal that ‘Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives’ suggests a lust for a violent solution that seems to go hand in hand with taking Islam seriously as a religion.

    Look this is the thing, Gandhi, the British trained lawyer (University College London), knew that the British were ultimately an enlightened people of law, and that therefore he could achieve all of his goals (getting the Imperial power out of India) without violence.  Now let me ask you a similar question. How do you think Gandhi would have approached the situation if instead of getting a modern first world education he had attended an Islamic school?

“Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives” (?)

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121 Responses to “Dawahfilms “Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives””

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Horrifying.

    Please do everything in your power get this idiot banned from every social medium. Obviously shaming him into oblivion is pointless.

    I wonder, how long before Dawahfilms commits a violent terrorist act? Maybe 1 year?

    • pezzab5 Says:

      If you believe in free speech, you should retract that statement.

      The fact that this idiot has said things which are an insult to our sensitivities does not mean that we should not have the right to hear them. If an extremist says he wants to “destroy the west” and everything we stand for, I want to hear him. Furthermore, I want everybody else to hear him as well just to clarify the difference between him and us.

      The more people that hear it, the less ambiguity there will be about what we’re really fighting for.

      • Anonymous Says:

        In my opinion, it’s akin to going into crowded movie theater and yelling “fire!” His free speech should end when it is calling for the physical harm to very real people, as opposed to some ambiguous “destroy the west” comment.

      • Alan Duval Says:

        Agreed. Much better to have dangerous people spouting there ideologies in public, where you can keep an eye on them.

      • Ranger Says:

        Inciting a riot is against the law in this country. What should be done when inciting to kill? Free speech? You can speak as freely as you wish. Just don’t be surprised when you discover there are consequences. I can freely call you mother horrible things, but the consequence would probably be you kicking the crap out of me. Never forget consequence.

      • Mike Says:

        “If you believe in free speech, you should retract that statement.”

        I agree. Censoring speech like this is NOT the way to go. The important thing about “free speech” is that the most important speech to be protected is the kind of speech we detest, not the kind we all like and support.

        It’s sad how many people don’t get this crucial point about “free speech”. :(

    • Wonko the Sane Says:

      Indeed, and I actually said this to him in a long IM conversation. There is going to come a day when he will be standing, gun in hand, in a church, synagogue or federal building, screaming “Allah akhbar” and feeling completely justified. He needs to be reported to the dept. of Homeland Security. I tried, but, man, they sure as hell don’t make it easy. Try it yourself and you’ll see what I mean.

  2. Baudi Says:

    Dawahfilms is treading painfully close to actually calling for violence against US troops. Are we literally watching someone turn into an extremist right before our eyes?

    • Brainiac1056 (@Brainiac1056) Says:

      Well, not that I like to be a wet blanket here but US IS killing civilians, burning curans and pissing on their victims…

      Is that “more right” than defending your home and country?
      What would you do if a country invaded yours, killing civilians and bombing the shit out of your cities AND then pissing on the victims?
      Would you just say; well, it´s ok, we´re terrorists, they have the right to kill us…

      No, you would defend yourself with every thing you got.

      • Ranger Says:

        And you have proof of this? There is an enormous propaganda war going on, has been long before this mess. I saw it for myself while viewing a site called the electronic intifada (spelling?) There was a pic of a little girl in a man’s arms. She looked to be dead. She appeared on several pages as a victim in several alleged incidents that spanned a number of years. How many times did she die? Also, was it a car accident? I almost fell for the whole thing until I saw it for myself. You need to do the same. No, the USA isn’t perfect. However there are bad apples. They don’t last long, though, unlike terrorists who simply don’t care.

      • Mike Paps Says:

        but US IS killing civilians, burning curans and pissing on their victims…

        As an uneducated Afghan civilian I might well not recognize these incidents as aberrations, and assume the US is using the same methods of fear, intimidation, and retribution used by the Taliban. People like DawahFilms on the other hand know better, but are intentionally fanning the flames of suspicion, and ignorance.

    • Mike Paps Says:

      Dawahfilms is treading painfully close to actually calling for violence against US troops.

      I think he’s crossed that line unless you can think of a way one could make them pay, or “fear for their lives” nonviolently.

    • DawahFilms Says:

      But the western world is killing muslim children all the time.

      • Mordinvan Says:

        Sounds just like you, to call for violence against a group when only a small number of them are actually a problem… sure would be a pitty if someone did that to a religious group… say… Islam? Oh well, no matter, attempting to incite violence against U.S. citizens, to instill ‘terror’ couldn’t possibly be called terrorism by anyone now could it? And we all know the U.S. has never reached outside its own borders to turn a ‘terrorist’ into an expending gas cloud, right? By the way, how deep is the hole you live in? Just want to know from how high they’ll need to drop the drone launched ‘birthday fire cracker’ to ensure proper delivery.

      • Prelude610 Says:

        How many children is Islam killing in Africa?

      • Mike Says:

        “But the western world is killing muslim children all the time.”

        Yes, and I might point out that the muslim world is ALSO killing muslim children all the time.

        For fuck’s sake, Dahwah, NO ONE is claiming that this is “right” or “just” or “acceptable”. It’s wrong no matter who does it. I’d wager that NONE of us here are in favor of killing children and that we would all stop it in a heartbeat if it was in our power to do so.

        Personally, I’d be all in favor of the death penalty for the soldier who committed this atrocity. But his actions don’t justify a “holy war” as you’re advocating.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    “Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives.” simply unbelievable.
    Keep up the good work Thunder, your an inspiration.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    ^^”Treading”

    He is blatantly calling for Afgahns to kill Allied forces.

  5. desperado Says:

    Doesn’t that guy know that the ONE US soldier was a roque!? Just like the taliban are roques to muslims!?

  6. Anonymous Says:

    3 things can happen when a religious person is backed into a corner.

    1. They give up on their faith or just stop caring about it (unlikely).

    2. They run or try to play the victim.

    3. They turn extremist (DawahFilms).

  7. voiceofreason467 Says:

    Calling for violence as the only way to get rid your enemies can only be declared when all other options have failed to work. I do sympathize with Dawah’s frustration about the Occupation still going in Afghanistan, but calling for violence on the enemies on the troops (since its obvious that he can’t be referring to the financial Oligarch’s that have a vested interest in keeping this war going) is insane as they have nothing to do with the war in Afghanistan and they are victims of circumstance (even though some of those guys join cause they wanna blow shit up).

  8. Michael Zeora Says:

    I say let him have his ability to have his speech be heard. It only will continue to paint him in a unfashionable light. To use the old addage – give him enough rope to hang himself on.

    On the other sub-subject – Afganistan has been a quagmire from the start. It’d be best if we get out as soon as humanily possible to do.

    Arguing with extreamists (of any cloth) is not worth one’s time and energy – speak to those who remain in the moderate (and reasonable) of those groups and maybe we can see who’s ideas and ideals resonate with our fellow humans.

  9. Dogma's Demise Says:

    Fuck DawahFilms and fuck his Islamized leftie atheist supporters from YouTube.

    • Sandgolem Says:

      Wait what? I don’t think most atheist would support a religious nutjob? I mean I’m an atheist and I’m on Thunder’s side.

      • Dogma's Demise Says:

        Okay, I can see how this message might have been misunderstood and please keep in mind I’m an atheist myself. I’m only referring to specific atheists who support DawahFilms. Remember when Thunderf00t criticized DawahFilms, a group of atheists on YouTube came to DawahFilms’ defense (shrederisalive, FederalistFilms and many more).

        If they had any credibility to begin with it’s lost now.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        FederalistFilms even said on his twitter to me that he wants DawahFilms US citizenship revoked. He’s by no means a friend of Kevin anymore.

    • Mike Paps Says:

      Speaking of FederalistFilms aka. Rithrandil. On a recent video by zarkoff45 he stated “Ali, Thunderf00t was right about you”. Better late than never, but it’s unfortunate they didn’t see through DawahFilms bullshit sooner..

      Perhaps now that they see him implying that a soldier going rogue, is part of some intentional US policy to kill civilians, any who might still be on the fence will recognize his mischatacterization of the sleeping giant as a threat was intentional, and his death threat directed at Thunderf00t in response was indeed a death threat.

    • Dogma's Demise Says:

      Alright, my mistake, glad to see they’ve come to their senses and distanced themselves from DawahFilms.

  10. albert Says:

    Dawahfilms.. “EAT….MY….WANK!

  11. Deadbolt Says:

    I’m afraid for Thunderf00t’s life to be honest. I think that DawahFilms might actually lose it and try to kill him at some point.

    • Mike Says:

      “I think that DawahFilms might actually lose it and try to kill him at some point.”

      Or some of his fans may decide that “god” is calling them to act for him.

      That’s the wonderful thing about believing in a magical sky-god or “holy prophet”…it can give people license to do the most horrible things in the name of their imaginary deity.

      Too many whackos out there really believe that some omnipotent super-being is telling them to kill people for the cause. Just look at all the crazy fucks that came out of the woodwork when cartoons of Mohammed were published.

      Seriously, believing in magical, mystical crap like this make s people believe that they’re acting for a higher power and that ANYTHING they do is correct and even honorable.

      This is one of the real dangers of religious belief (and that goes for ANY religion- not just “this” religion or “that” religion, but ALL religion.). It allows people to do things that could never be justified any other way.

  12. Tom (@thomin) Says:

    So he’s not only a radical but also stupid…then again, one implies the other I guess…

    If history and psychology has taught us anything, it’s that peace comes when people DON’T have to fear for their lives. This is so trivially true, it boggles the mind.
    Does this brainwashed kid really think that the American soldier went bonkers because he felt so safe and secure? Or might it have something to do with the fact that he has seen his comrades being blown to pieces?

  13. Thirsty Says:

    When all is said and done the shift from once Christian to radical Muslim wasn’t really all that long for Kevin. You give these people enough rope and they hang themselves, the only problem is they will always try and hang other along with them in order for them to have self satisfaction.

    You were right about Kevin (Ali) all along Thunderf00t, and you were right to address him in particular with your videos and not let him spread his nonsense unchecked.

    People like him may have every right to spout their nonsense but they must be made aware that criticism is waiting patiently for them at every turn. We should never give up our right to be critical of anything. Life itself is refined through critique.

    Also just to add, Kevin is a massive prick.

  14. Sujay Says:

    “How do you think Gandhi would have approached the situation if instead of getting a modern first world education he had attended an Islamic school?”
    @Thunderf00t – Do you give credit of Gandhi’s non violence to his western education? If Gandhi’s non violence was somehow a western influence, then, how come Gandhi needed to use this tool against a violent British Raj? (the British oppression is the main reason why we Indians fought for freedom in the first place) Were the British not educated in Britain? Then how come they were not schooled in non-violence?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I strongly feel that non-violence or ‘ahimsa’ that Gandhi practiced was a direct influence of the Dharmic religions of the region, namely Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. Sam Harris endorses this in one of his talks.

    Ahimsa is root tenet of the Dharmic religions, except when one fights for ‘Dharma’ or greater good. It is closely connected with the notion that all kinds of violence entail negative karmic consequences.

    PS: I am not religious. It’s just that you somehow seemed to imply that Gandhi’s non-violence was a consequence of his western education, and I feel the west is, and has always been, the biggest oppressor of Asian people. From the looting plundering British, to the patent laws on Indian herbal medicines and Indian rice and trade laws enforcing dollars , illegal war on Iraq etc. George Carlin makes an excellent point in one of his acts -” if your country is poor and has a lot of brown people, get ready, cause we’re (Americans) coming there soon to bomb your ass”. Ironically the safest place to live for an Asian is America. Just count all the number of military bases that America has currently put up in Asia. The west is in no way non – violent.

    The west is definitely more civilized than the Arabs, but the west is not non violent.

    • Mr Noworth Says:

      TF didn’t say Gandhi learned about being non-violent in Britain, but he did learn about their laws and culture. He learned that he could win by being non-violent.

  15. Mr Noworth Says:

    “IF the US had as its goal to kill families, I think they have the military capability to enact such a policy with greater efficiency than to merely kill 16 people.”

    I fear that this is going to be twisted around by DF. He’s going to say that you’re calling for the US to kill families more efficiently or something. He’s done it once, he might do it again.

  16. Prelude610 Says:

    I’d love to see DF get a bigger platform to screech from. TF was right to expose this guy but now this needs to go to the next level. I’d love to see DW on an equally whacky Glen Beck show, or even a CNN, where in the full light of day he can rant and rave and “speak for all of Islam”, which he seems to think he does. Then I’d love to see what happens next, and not necessarily to DW, but how other spokes people for Islam, apologists of Islam, and others respond.

  17. VyckRo Says:

    @Thunderf00t
    If Christianity had not existed you will wiped your ass npw with leaves.
    not believe it?
    debate me, you intellectual midget!

    • Prelude610 Says:

      Somehow I don’t think anyone could debate you.

    • Dogma's Demise Says:

      Haha! VyckRo, question: Would you exist without communism, yes or no?

      Keep in mind communism in Romania appeared 1945 and you were most likely born in the early 80′s based on your YT page. Any change in history, especially a regime change, something really large-scale, could potentially lead to your parents never meeting.

      (And no, this is not an endorsement, in any way, of communism even though I’m sure your puny little mind will interpret it as such.)

  18. Anonymous Says:

    “To even suggest that ‘making their families pay’ is the intent of the US suggests a willfully malicious mis-interpretation of facts.”

    But the fact is families HAVE BEEN PAYING with their lives as a direct result of US actions in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

  19. Mike Paps Says:

    It’s misinterpreting acts like a US service member going loco, or collateral damage where civilian unintentionally die as intentional US policy which motivates terrorism.

  20. Thomas Says:

    You must see this !!

    Hamza Tzortzis is crying over the fact that his parents aren’t moslems and that they gonna go to hell after they die:

    This guy is really brainwashed. He really seems to fear hell or is he just a good actor?

  21. JohnDurandal Says:

    Actually the scariest part for me is where he denounces fair trials.

    Also ironically Afghanistan had its own Ghandi:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Abdul_Ghaffar_Khan

  22. MrSoprano0125 Says:

    What a complete tool he is being. The more he spout this crap, the more everyone thinks he is going to commit a terrorist act and the more it makes it look bad for HIM. I hope he doesn’t take the next step and do something really stupid that gets a lot of people hurt.

    Talk about being a misguided wanker

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Thankfully, Kevin is a coward if his actions on YouTube are something we can go by anyway. He closes his YouTube channel and runs away when things get hot all the time, and returns when it’s more calm. It’s safe to say he wouldn’t try to get anyone hurt, not because he’s against it, but because he’s too much of a fuddy duddy cowardly bitch.

  23. Adrian Says:

    Dawahfilms is an example of an archaic mentality. Thunderf00t is correct. This type of abhorent behaviour is best met with education and communication.

    The argument Dawahfilms leaves has so many logical holes in it that those with a free mind can see that the best thing to do is to ask questions. For example, surely any Muslim using Dawahfilms’ words as a reason to commit violence in the name of Islam can no longer claim their religion to want anything to do with peace. (Yes, I realize that this message was sent to Afghans as opposed to Muslims in general, but given the direction of Dawahfilms past motives, it must be assumed that he is making a call to violence that incites all Muslims, not just the Afghan people.)

  24. shichiseiken Says:

    The ones that youtube should ban are people like his kind. Scumbag violence promoter.

  25. jonpaulprime Says:

    The Afghans who want “nothing to do with the Taliban” are completely outnumbered by the Afghans who want nothing to do with the United States. Remind me again, when’s the last time we saw bloodthirsty Afghan mobs demanding vengeance against the Taliban? Because we’ve seen quite a few bloodthirsty Afghan mobs very recently.

    When it’s U.S. policy to hurt families or not (and it isn’t) misses the point. Families have been paying *with their lives* as a direct result of activities taken by the U.S. military. Why not give us an honest appraisal of how many innocent lives in Afghanistan and Iraq have been destroyed by U.S. bullets, bombs, and drone strikes. I’m guessing it’s slightly more than 16 people.

    The war should have ended the night a Navy SEAL put a bullet in Bin Laden’s brain. This anticlimactic insanity needs to stop.

    • Mike Paps Says:

      when’s the last time we saw bloodthirsty Afghan mobs demanding vengeance against the Taliban? Because we’ve seen quite a few bloodthirsty Afghan mobs very recently.

      Of course you don’t see angry mobs demanding vengeance against the Taliban. The Afghan people know better than to incite a group that intentionally, and wantonly murders civilians for doing just that, and on the flip side understand they can make such demands with respect to allied forces without fear of violent retribution.

      I don’t support our continued presence there, nor did I support our involvement in the Afghanistan in the first place, but you’re wrong the differences in policy, and intent regarding civilians is precisely the point here.

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Actually most Afghans I talk to who actually live in Afghanistan hate the Taliban with a passion, even if they’re conservative muslims. And of course there’s this famous world group:

      http://rawa.org/

      I’m as anti US foreign policy as anyone can be, in fact the US created the fundamentalist islamic threat in Afghanistan in the first place to fight a secular regime (The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan) but all of a sudden trying to paint the US as just these bloodthirsty baby killers that the Afghans hate infinitely more than the Taliban and side with the Taliban is just not true.

  26. CancerMan Says:

    Ok Thunderf00t I have to respond to this because you brought up Ghandi. FIrst of all to suggest Ghandi is revered by so many because of his “British” education is ridiculous.

    How come there are not more peace makers and “spiritualists” coming out of the University College of London who are respected by so many religions? Ghandi was loved by Jews, Christians and Muslims alike. There is even a statue to him in India. Where are the statues of all the other students who came out of that University?

    You cannot say honestly that is because of his education Thunderf00t. It goes much deeper. Ghandi was not an atheist at all!

    Ghandi was a unique individual and it was not his “British” education that gave him his non-violent method for dealing with the brutal violence towards his fellow Hindus at the hands of the “enlightened” British. India suffered terribly under the British’s rule, so to even suggest as you have that the British have some better system or are better people is no more different then living in a fairy tale land.

    Ghandi learned his non-violent method primarily from two sources, one when he studied about Jesus. He knew the British were human beings too and if the hindus and muslims in the area did not respond back with anger, you know the usual, anger vs anger, that eventually the British would become ashamed of there own actions.

    Its like this, if you continue hounding someone and ridiculing them and they are responding back with nothing but love, that person will eventually become ashamed of there own behavior. They will see the error of there ways and there conscience will get to them.

    That is what Ghandi knew and learned, and he certainly never got them from his fellow atheists or Britain. It was Britain as I just mentioned above, that was brutalizing India. How enlightened is that thunderf00t?

    And this gets to the heart of my problem with you Thunderf00t. People are not Good or Bad because of there religions. People don’t go to hell because they are atheist. There are good people in bad religions and there are bad people in good religions. It is the choices we as individuals make, and those choices can go against the grain of society. The choices we make are in dealing with the circumstances we find ourselves in. Life, thunderfoot and its choices are not simply being automotive robots acting out the script we have been given. People have minds of there own.

    Oh and the other source that Ghandi got his non-violent message from? It was from the religion that Ghandi himself said he felt most closest to and even thought about joining: Islam.

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Eh, there’s inaccuracies in your statement.

      “Ghandi was a unique individual and it was not his “British” education that gave him his non-violent method for dealing with the brutal violence towards his fellow Hindus at the hands of the “enlightened” British. India suffered terribly under the British’s rule, so to even suggest as you have that the British have some better system or are better people is no more different then living in a fairy tale land.

      Ghandi learned his non-violent method primarily from two sources, one when he studied about Jesus. He knew the British were human beings too and if the hindus and muslims in the area did not respond back with anger, you know the usual, anger vs anger, that eventually the British would become ashamed of there own actions.

      Its like this, if you continue hounding someone and ridiculing them and they are responding back with nothing but love, that person will eventually become ashamed of there own behavior. They will see the error of there ways and there conscience will get to them.

      That is what Ghandi knew and learned, and he certainly never got them from his fellow atheists or Britain. It was Britain as I just mentioned above, that was brutalizing India. How enlightened is that thunderf00t?”

      Actually Ghandi used economics on his favor, he created basically an alternative economic system that allowed Indians to essentially boycott the British and cripple them economically, it wasn’t religious teachings, of which he was awash in, that won Indian independence. “Ghandian Economics” Hell much of the Independence figures, many of whom were more substantive after Independence than Ghandi, were atheists!

      “How come there are not more peace makers and “spiritualists” coming out of the University College of London who are respected by so many religions? Ghandi was loved by Jews, Christians and Muslims alike. There is even a statue to him in India. Where are the statues of all the other students who came out of that University? ”

      Um..he wasn’t implying that it pumps out peace makers, he was implying that Ghandi’s successful appealing to British mentality and sentimentality is what allowed him to win. His British education certainly helped in that and he did admire British culture and society, though ironically not as much as many of his confidants. I mean modern Indian politics is largely modeled on the British for a reason.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghandi#World_War_II_and_Quit_India

      DawahFilms actually hates Ghandi, and constantly derived people who saw him as an example.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        attacked people* stupid typos

      • Mike Paps Says:

        Um..he wasn’t implying that it pumps out peace makers, he was implying that Ghandi’s successful appealing to British mentality and sentimentality is what allowed him to win.

        I don’t think he was even implying that much, though it is implied. He was simply pointing out that Ghandi’s western education made him aware of the fact that British sentimentality could be exploited using non-violence. In other words it helped him to recognize that the British people would not indefinitely support violent responses to civil disobedience.

      • CancerMan Says:

        There are no inaccuracies in the statement I made. If there are any interpreted mistakes its that, Thunderf00t used the term enlightened and that can be interpreted as peace making. But you agree that just because someone is educated does not take the animal out of them. I’m glad you agree with me.

        Thunderf00t was indeed suggesting that Ghandi’s education made him a peace maker, after all why would Thunderf00t leave his posting off with this message:

        “How do you think Gandhi would have approached the situation if instead of getting a modern first world education he had attended an Islamic school?”

        Thunderf00ts whole argument on youtube is how “YOUR RELIGION” has made you a jerk, savage, animal, stupid etc etc, and that’s just not the case and it is deliberately false and its just going to create further division.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        “There are no inaccuracies in the statement I made.”

        Actually there’s plenty, but I and others have already pointed them out so I won’t do it again.

        “Thunderf00t used the term enlightened and that can be interpreted as peace making. Thunderf00t was indeed suggesting that Ghandi’s education made him a peace maker,””

        Eh?

        He was suggesting it allowed him to understand that non violent resistance would appeal to the British because they were not predisposed to cruelty, and that they tolerated such abuses because it was so far away. Anyone who thinks the British were overwhelmingly in support of the British Raj at that time and jerked off to the idea of subjugating the indians and killing them, etc is a retard.

        “would Thunderf00t leave his posting off with this message:

        “How do you think Gandhi would have approached the situation if instead of getting a modern first world education he had attended an Islamic school?””

        But he’s right. Islamic schools don’t have a track record with pumping out peace makers, just piece makers, if you get my drift.

        “Thunderf00ts whole argument on youtube is how “YOUR RELIGION” has made you a jerk, savage, animal, stupid etc etc, and that’s just not the case and it is deliberately false and its just going to create further division.”

        In Kevins case it actually is correct. Anyone can observe his slow transition, all his old atheist friends recognize it, even Coughlin says he’s gone off the deep end and is a fucking idiot.

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      “I don’t think he was even implying that much, though it is implied.”

      Um, is it implied or not? :P

      • Mike Paps Says:

        There is a difference between something being implied, and someone intentionally implying it. :p

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        But he was intentionally implying it, unless he thinks he learned non-violence (which isn’t really how he won anyway) in London at that time :P

      • Mike Paps Says:

        He simply stated that Ghandi by virtue of his western education believed that he could achieve his goals non-violently.

        Yes he did win, but TF never claimed that was “what allowed him to win” nor did he imply it. At best you can say it’s an implication of what he said. This isn’t rocket science, and I’m done playing semantics games. :P

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Maybe I’m wrong, but he clearly seems to imply that he was able to win and defeat the British by appealing to their “advanced” sensibilities, and that they were tolerating their horrific exploitation because it was so far away and not in their face, but again maybe I’m wrong. If someone thinks “western education” teaches non-violence, I hate to sound like DawahFilms, but that’s absolutely ridiculous.

      • Mike Paps Says:

        I agree, and again we’re nitpicking here. Ghandi’s experience was brought up to support the point TF was making in the previous paragraph. Ghandi recognized that the policy of Britain was NOT to kill innocents in order to terrorize the opposition. (contrary to what Ali is implying) If it were Ghandi would not have believed he could achieve his goals using non-violence. In other words non-violent civil disobedience will not work against the uncivilized.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Okay okay since we practically agree on everything, I’ll just leave it at that.

      • CancerMan Says:

        “In other words non-violent civil disobedience will not work against the uncivilized.”

        It worked against the British.

      • Mike Paps Says:

        It worked against the British.

        How do you define uncivilized? Because uncivilized people by the definition implied above would have no qualms with intentionally killing their non-violent innocent civilian opposition. Much like the behavior of the Taliban, who would see a non-violent protest as nothing more than a good opportunity for target practice. Only using DawahFilms “logic” would the British qualify as uncivilized to that degree.

  27. Cephas Borg Says:

    Perhaps Kevin would like to go and live with his “brothers and sisters” and see what his blessed religion does to people when it rules unrestrained? Or would that just cement his inchoate worldview?

    I’m pretty sure ol’ Kevvy thinks American bullets do more harm than Taliban bullets!

    But then, who did the Taliban shoot when they were in power (and even now)? It wasn’t the western journalists they were showing around, and it wasn’t Pakistan or any of Afghanistan’s islamic neighbours. No, it was Afghans. Shoot ‘em, stone ‘em (when you don’t want to waste valuable ammunition), whip ‘em, behead ‘em, chop off their hands and feet, pour acid in girls’ faces, hang ‘em, and starve ‘em. That’s the way of the prophet, and that’s what Kevin wants more than anything. Of course, he wants to be the one administering the punishment, not the other way around. He’s not silly!

    Comparing US (or international) forces with the Taliban is like comparing Ghandi to Hitler. (On that note, a powerfully disturbing alternative outcome story was written by Harry Turtledove in 1988, called “The Last Article”. It’s about how Ghandi fares when the Nazis invade India. Excellent reading, especially in this context!).

    And, just for the hell of it, there was no implication by TF that Ghandi got anything out of his western education apart from a knowledge that Britain would obey its own laws. John Durandal has _inferred_ that, but the text absolutely does not _imply_ any such thing. Just my $0.02…

    • Prelude610 Says:

      Kevin spending time living in those countries sounds like a genuinely good idea. And I mean actually live there. Get a normal job and do all the day-to-day stuff, not sit in a mosque or some other school, or anything other than what the average person there does. He might like it, or not, but at least if he continues spouting his nonsense over here that he’ll have a little more experience than a fundie-christian-turned-fundie-muslim living the relatively sheltered life he has here can offer.

      After all, some travel did Malcolm X some good.

      After thought — it would be interesting to see how Kevin’s love for Islam would change if while living in a strictly Islamic country he decided to change religions again.

      • Cephas Borg Says:

        Remember (if you haven’t already!) that islam is a one-way ticket. It’s not like the good ol’ fundamentalist christian gabble gabble nonsense – once you’re in islam, you’re in it for (your) life. Attempting to change to another religion from islam, especially for someone as publicly despised already as Kev the Heav, is a lose-lose proposition.

        While he would undoubtedly revel in his notoriety changing to yet-another-mental-subterfuge masked as religion, there are too many people waiting for just such a stupid move, who would take the opportunity to level with him, and never let up!

        Whether he realises it or not (and I strongly suspect he doesn’t, he can’t think that far ahead), he’s playing the big game now, and the “propheteers” take that sort of thing (apostasy) very seriously indeed.

        In fact, it would be the solemn (and never-ending) duty of his loving muslim “brothers and sisters” to hunt him down and kill him, should he think of leaving. That would be too, too ironic for words.

        What a horrible subject religion is. Rational human beings, derationalised. Shudder.

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      He lives in Malaysia though, a muslim country.

  28. thetruth Says:

    Hey thunderfoot I am proud of the work u have done…. I think internet is indeed the place where religion comes to die. However, I have noticed that you haven’t really ripped into the judaism all that much. That is a crazy wacko religion too. Are scared to be called anti-semitic? ….. Criticizing judaism is as anti-semitic as being called an islamophobe for criticizing islam. So why have you pulled back?

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Criticizing the Old Testament and Biblical law is by proxy criticizing Judaism, and there just isn’t enough religious jews out to make a huge focus on Judaism.

    • levanahsjourney Says:

      I also think that picking on Judaism would be a waste of time. Why? I’m Jewish and I’d just laugh at you and think: ‘is that the worst you can do?’

      When most people are out to kill you for being a Jew, someone picking apart the Tanakh is merely funny. Oh and Jews also laugh at themselves the most so yeah, total waste of time.

      • thetruth Says:

        Well you guys are mixing up criticism with humour. They can be amalgamated but they don’t have to. Are they not enough religious jews out there? ….. Possibly. I really can’t tell. The point is that they do believe in this concept of the “chosen people” idea. Now I know there is varying opinion on the matter but I just think that it is pure bullshit. Atleast one video should be made about that. They are quite many jewish people out there that feel they are above humanity because an invisible man in the sky granted them this special title. Whether or not it has been harmless up to this point…. it still needs to be ridiculed. Comedy may work on the arabs because, well they get their feelings hurt too easily but I guess being serious with judaism will work on the other hand. I am aware that is more or less a baseless correlation but I have seen it work at times.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Why not Hinduism? That’s the third largest religion in the world, while Judaism is only the 9th. It affects a much larger part of the world and a much larger population, and is quite violent, oppressive and stupid. How come you’re not making a case about him making a vid about Hinduism? Your reasoning would make more sense if you picked Hinduism or Buddhism or any of the other much larger religions in the world.

        Why do you care if he hasn’t made a direct video encompassing Judaism or anything else for that matter? He hasn’t made videos on hundreds of topics he could cover, so why? Judaism is barely even an active religion in the world, and criticizing Biblical law, the Old Testament, Biblical narratives, etc is criticizing Judaism. This seems a rehash of the anti-semite claim that people are willing to criticize any religion but judaism, when they really mean “ethnic jews” but are too pussy to say it.

  29. thetruth Says:

    Hinduism is more harmless than judaism? Last time I checked they ain’t no war in the middle east over a fuckin land that two faiths are fighting over. Claiming their religious relevance has more precedence than the other. Hinduism is the third largest faith in the world but that is mainly due to India’s population. It has very little diversity. So it’s influence doesn’t really extend that strongly. Also hinduism has lost its traction alot over the years in India. My point was not really taken properly. Criticize hinduism as well. The only reason why I mentioned judaism is because his focus has primarily been abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity) and I just felt how judaism being the source of both faiths is usually not criticized directly. Criticizing the old testament and biblican narratives ain’t enough….. it was usually in context with jesus christ. Someone who the jews don’t believe in. SO SHATTAP!!!

    • thetruth Says:

      *harmful

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        “Hinduism is more harmful than judaism? Last time I checked they ain’t no war in the middle east over a fuckin land that two faiths are fighting over. ”

        No, just discrimination and oppression against millions of people in India, Nepal and Bhutan in the name of Hinduism, including vicious terrorism by Hindu fundamentalists that kill more than in a lot of islamic terrorist attacks, in the same sub-continent. Since when is something being in the Middle East a litmus test for how harmful it is? Does the world only take place there in your brain?

        “Hinduism is the third largest faith in the world but that is mainly due to India’s population.”

        Partially true, though you have to include Nepal, Bhutan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, parts of Indonesia, parts of China, Sri Lanka and a few other places. The only reason it’s not in more places is the the vast Indian Ocean and Himalayas, as in natural boundaries, that’s all. Not any peaceful nature.

        “It has very little diversity. ”

        Well that’s completely false. It wasn’t until 1947 that India was one country. Before that, they were a homogenous people with one language, culture, ethnicity living in peace? I don’t think so. India is more diverse, even within its Hindu population, than the entire United States. You’re showing your complete ignorance here, figures.

        “Also hinduism has lost its traction alot over the years in India.”

        So? Judaism is almost dead as a practiced religion (religious jews obsession with preserving their religion ring any bells?), hence the few fundie religious jews left either high tail to the Israeli settlements or make isolated communities in upstate New York or Canada. What’s your point? Christianity and Islam are losing traction too, although slower.

        “The only reason why I mentioned judaism is because his focus has primarily been abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity) and I just felt how judaism being the source of both faiths is usually not criticized directly.”

        How is criticizing Jewish religious texts (The Old Testament) not directly criticizing Judaism? Also a big difference between the three is you don’t see Jews trying to shove their religion down peoples throats in America or really anywhere in the world, most Jews are not religious, and as such directly criticizing it is largely seen as pointless, not that people don’t already do it anyway, mostly Jews ironically.

        “it was usually in context with jesus christ.”

        Um, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with the Old Testament.

        “I care because I believe judaism has more influence….. COMPRENDE?!”

        Where does it have influence outside Israel?

      • thetruth Says:

        Eh listen you dumass…. If millions have suffered under hinduism than billions have suffered worldwide from judaism and the connection it holds with abrahamic faiths. Directly and indirectly. Let me use your words “Does the world only take place there in your brain?”. BOOM LEFT HOOK!!! The race of hindu people is not very diverse. Ever met a black or a white hindu? If you have….. I am sure they account for a number that is too less to be considered significant. I have met alot of diverse jews. The disease of religion is more stronger in judaism. I believe they are more hindus in india than they are jews in israel….. So yes ratio wise india plays a larger role in contributing towards the size and significance of the faith. Keep in mind that ratio would be even larger if you account for the fact that british took so many of them as slaves to guinea…. trinidad…. etc. SO BOOM RIGHT HOOK!!!! …… In terms of judaism not trying to shove their shit down people’s throats…. well ofcourse if you think you are “chosen people”…. nobody is entitled to your faith. Now ofcourse to me that’s a good thing but when you have people believe they are a better human being because of it and have children and raise teach them the same thing then yes I do have an objection to that. The fact is you ignored the fact is said CRITCISIZE HINDUISM TOO….. I just used judaism as an example because it seems to be closer to thunderfoot’s topic. You went on a rampage bringing comparisons in the conversation. “Where does it have influence outside israel”? YOUR MAMA’s house!!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM KNOCK OUT!!!! You sound like a pissed off jewish guy posing as an athiest.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Well, you’ve shown yourself to be a complete and utter dumbass:

        “Eh listen you dumass…”

        Anyway, on to your shit:

        “If millions have suffered under hinduism than billions have suffered worldwide from judaism and the connection it holds with abrahamic faiths.”

        Eh, what? Are you blaming Judaism for things done in the name of Christianity and Islam? What kind of reasoning is that? Can we blame the British for things done by Americans then?

        “The race of hindu people is not very diverse. ”

        There is no “race of hindu people” you retard. There is the Hindi language, which is spoken of by many different ethnic groups and religions, including Hindus, Muslims and even Jews and is spoken as far as South Africa. Hinduism is not a race and doesn’t claim to be, it’s predominant in several countries of several different ethnicities, Nepal, Bhutan, Indonesia and Sri Lanka for example, which are not India. India itself is several hundred ethnicities and languages and religions too.

        “Ever met a black or a white hindu? If you have….. I am sure they account for a number that is too less to be considered significant.”

        Actually “black” indians (both the ones that descend from African slaves brought over by the Arabs and later British and the indigenous blacks) make up a huge part of Hindus in India so again you’re a retard.

        “I have met alot of diverse jews.”

        There’s only 13 million or so Jews on the entire planet, most of which are not religious and are secular and even Atheist.

        “The disease of religion is more stronger in judaism.”

        Er wouldn’t it be equally strong in any religion, if it’s the “disease of religion”? What the fuck?

        “In terms of judaism not trying to shove their shit down people’s throats…. well ofcourse if you think you are “chosen people”….nobody is entitled to your faith. ”

        Which is what Zoroastrians, Fundamentalist Mormons, Amish, and Druze think as well yet you don’t see them as worthy as much criticism.

        Besides that’s not even entirely true as people have historically and contemporarily converted to Judaism far easier than those religions but besides isn’t it a good thing if people don’t convert to these religions? Yet you’re bitching about some of them not wanting people to convert to it? You’re contradicting yourself.

        “Now ofcourse to me that’s a good thing but when you have people believe they are a better human being because of it and have children and raise teach them the same thing then yes I do have an objection to that.”

        Ah, okay, and the percentage of Jews (a blip on the world stage or even national stage) who actually think this is…? Nil. Yes I know you think there’s secret Jew clubs out there ruling the world based on “Jewish supremacy” and directing international discourse but that’s just your own paranoia.

        “The fact is you ignored the fact is said CRITCISIZE HINDUISM TOO…”

        I ask again, why thunderf00t should do that. He doesn’t talk about a lot of things or show a lot of things. He could show himself taking a shit and shaving. I bet you’d like that, wouldn’t you?

        “I just used judaism as an example because it seems to be closer to thunderfoot’s topic.”

        How? Who cares about Judaism anyway? Most Jews don’t even care.

        “YOUR MAMA’s house!!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM KNOCK OUT!!!! You sound like a pissed off jewish guy posing as an athiest.”

        Yep, the paranoid retard reveals himself.

        You’re a complete retard.

      • thetruth Says:

        This response ^^^ is so full of fail….. It don’t matter whether if slaves were brough from Africa. They all referred to as one race right now…. yes. Do you know what that race is called. There is white, black, ….. and ummm….. let me see….. go ask a indian you retard. I want you to see the response from them. “There is the Hindi language, which is spoken of by many different ethnic groups and religions, including Hindus, Muslims and even Jews and is spoken as far as South Africa. Hinduism is not a race and doesn’t claim to be, it’s predominant in several countries of several different ethnicities, Nepal, Bhutan, Indonesia and Sri Lanka for example” ….. LOOOOOOOOOL ….. You are a moron. “Nepal, Bhutan, Indonesia and Sri Lanka” …. No the hindu language is not predominant in these countries. IT MAY EXIST BUT IT IS NOT PREDOMINANT. “AS FAR AS SOUTH AFRICA” ….. Well no shit…. you know why? Do some research. You idiot. You are looking like a moron.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        “They all referred to as one race right now…. yes. ”

        Who are you talking about? Hindus? They’re not referred to as a race ever. Indians? It’s a nationality that encompasses several different ethnicities, no one claims it’s a “race”.

        “There is white, black, ….. and ummm….. let me see….. go ask a indian you retard.”

        Ask an indian what? That if they’re a “race”? They’ll say no. Ask if Indian is synonymous with Hinduism? They’ll say no and probably be offended if they’re one of the several million non hindu indians. That and Hinduism exists in several others places in the world. Are Nepalese Indians to you now? Indonesians? Sri Lankans? Are you a retard? The answer is yes.

        “….. LOOOOOOOOOL ….. You are a moron.”

        Excellent response. Can you disprove what I said though, cite even an encyclopedia article or dictionary definition that is on your side?

        “No the hindu language is not predominant in these countries.”

        There is no Hindu language (language is the same as race?). Hindi is not derived from Hindu and is not exclusive to Hindus you moron. How do you even manage to breathe?

        “You are looking like a moron.”

        Are you looking in a mirror?

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      “Hinduism is more harmful than judaism? Last time I checked they ain’t no war in the middle east over a fuckin land that two faiths are fighting over. ”

      No, just discrimination and oppression against millions of people in India, Nepal and Bhutan in the name of Hinduism, including vicious terrorism by Hindu fundamentalists that kill more than in a lot of islamic terrorist attacks, in the same sub-continent. Since when is something being in the Middle East a litmus test for how harmful it is? Does the world only take place there in your brain?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system#India

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_fundamentalism

      “Hinduism is the third largest faith in the world but that is mainly due to India’s population.”

      Partially true, though you have to include Nepal, Bhutan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, parts of Indonesia, parts of China, Sri Lanka and a few other places. The only reason it’s not in more places is the the vast Indian Ocean and Himalayas, as in natural boundaries, that’s all. Not any peaceful nature.

      “It has very little diversity. ”

      Well that’s completely false. It wasn’t until 1947 that India was one country. Before that, they were a homogenous people with one language, culture, ethnicity living in peace? I don’t think so. India is more diverse, even within its Hindu population, than the entire United States. You’re showing your complete ignorance here, figures.

      “Also hinduism has lost its traction alot over the years in India.”

      So? Judaism is almost dead as a practiced religion (religious jews obsession with preserving their religion ring any bells?), hence the few fundie religious jews left either high tail to the Israeli settlements or make isolated communities in upstate New York or Canada. What’s your point? Christianity and Islam are losing traction too, although slower.

      “The only reason why I mentioned judaism is because his focus has primarily been abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity) and I just felt how judaism being the source of both faiths is usually not criticized directly.”

      How is criticizing Jewish religious texts (The Old Testament) not directly criticizing Judaism? Also a big difference between the three is you don’t see Jews trying to shove their religion down peoples throats in America or really anywhere in the world, most Jews are not religious, and as such directly criticizing it is largely seen as pointless, not that people don’t already do it anyway, mostly Jews ironically.

      “it was usually in context with jesus christ.”

      Um, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with the Old Testament.

      “I care because I believe judaism has more influence….. COMPRENDE?!”

      Where does it have influence outside Israel?

      • Mike Says:

        “No, just discrimination and oppression against millions of people in India, Nepal and Bhutan in the name of Hinduism, including vicious terrorism by Hindu fundamentalists that kill more than in a lot of islamic terrorist attacks, in the same sub-continent.”

        Lol, yeah, well, but except for that…. :)

        Good points. It seems that no matter what religion people practice, it ends up being used *against* other people, those who don’t practice it or who practice some variation of it.

        Crazy shit.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Well religions obviously create an us vs them mentality, intentionally or not, since when you’re told you’re part of the chosen, the best, whatever, you tend to the view people not in such a glorious camp with distrust and hatred. New Atheist actually exhibit this behavior too, even thunderf00t does, which is sad.

  30. thetruth Says:

    I care because I believe judaism has more influence….. COMPRENDE?!

    • Mike Says:

      “I care because I believe judaism has more influence….. COMPRENDE?!”

      Oh, let me guess…judaism has “more influence” because of the secret control the “jewish bankers” have over the monetary system or some such horseshit, right? Cuz the jews “control all the banks and money” or something like that? Is that where this is going?

      Please, let’s not start with this bullshit. The jews don’t control the banks anymore than I do.

      • thetruth Says:

        JACKASS…. When you tell me what I believe or assume than you already your position is bullshit. Now let me make an assumption on you that is probably more accurate. Get outta your parents basement you 40 year old virgin. Piss off

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Mike, I knew right from the beginning what’s where he was going and what he believes, and he’s a total idiot to boot (dumass?) so maybe I shouldn’t waste my time, but I’ll make a response to his drivel anyway :p

      • Mike Says:

        “I knew right from the beginning what’s where he was going and what he believes”

        Yep, it was pretty obvious. The internet: where idiots go to strut. :)

      • thetruth Says:

        I think I have enough of conversating with tweedle dee and tweedle DUM…. lool…. look <<

  31. Mike Says:

    theTruth babbled: “Now let me make an assumption on you that is probably more accurate. Get outta your parents basement you 40 year old virgin.”

    Wrong on all counts. :) Did you forget to take your psychic pills this morning? lol

    “Piss off”

    No, I don’t think I will. And I don’t think you can make me, either. :)

    • thetruth Says:

      Hey if there is anyone taking pills its probably you old fart…. :P “No, I don’t think I will. And I don’t think you can make me, either.” ….. fine lurk around. What do I care

      • Mike Says:

        “fine lurk around.”

        “Lurking” is what you do outside of elementary schools.

        ” What do I care”

        Apparently you care enough not to let go of this thread. But please, keep coming back and making a fool of yourself. We can never have too many good examples of fools.

  32. Mike Says:

    theTruth scribbled: “Eh listen you dumass….”

    There’s something deliciously ironic about your calling someone else a name that you can’t event spell correctly. :)

    Lol, what a *dumbass*.

    • thetruth Says:

      Leave it to a couple of idiots to point out the spelling on a cuss word. LOL…. I just used in a slang way. You know like “fuckin” instead of fucking. It’s funny because I made plenty of typos in my previous posts that I was fully aware of but did not bother to change it. You know why because this ain’t a these for a PHD paper. It is a simple blog conversation. As long as the message comes accross then thats fine….. it seems to communicate to you perfectly enough since you all write paragraphs of responses. :P hahahah But hey anything to feel smart right…. Here is sticker saying you are #1.

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        “Leave it to a couple of idiots to point out the spelling on a cuss word. LOL…. I just used in a slang way.”

        Actually every response you make is full of spelling and grammar errors, reflective of your idiocy (you type like a 13 year old) but we’re only putting out your misspelling of dumbass, because you’re calling people that. You can at least spell the insult you’re using.

        Also “dumass” is slang? I can’t find any reference to this slang anywhere, so did you honestly just pull that out of your ass in a lousy attempt not to look like a retard? :P

      • Mike Says:

        “As long as the message comes accross then thats fine”

        Please let us know if and when that ever happens. lol

        “It’s funny because I made plenty of typos in my previous posts”

        Lol, EVERY post you’ve written looks like it was typed by a monkey with a severe head injury. Seriously, you come across as an illiterate boob, which is probably pretty accurate.

        Now tell us more about the international zionist conspiracy to dilute our precious bodily fluids or whatever.

        “this ain’t a these for a PHD paper”

        Damn, you ALMOST spelled ‘PhD’ correctly. Almost. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you don’t have one of those. :)

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Just for fun, I found this:

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dumass

        “dumass

        This is how idiots spell dumbass.
        It’s dumbass, not dumass, dumbass.”

        The sites right about that.

      • thetruths Says:

        And the paragraphs of responses keep coming…. RESPOND TO THIS… fhjaf;dkjfhl;fjhsdf

      • anonymous Says:

        “And the paragraphs of responses keep coming…. RESPOND TO THIS… fhjaf;dkjfhl;fjhsdf”

        Wonderful to see your already pointless “debate” deteriorate even further.

  33. thetruth Says:

    look I made a mistake with these for thesis…. quickly jump at that. hahaha…. here is another one…. DUMass

  34. Mike Says:

    theTruth dribbled: “I think I have enough of conversating”

    Yeppers, we got us some real fahn conversatin’ goin’ on raht here. Hang fahr, boys, rustle me up some o’ them thar vittles while we wait fer more pearls o’ wisdom from “thTruth”.

    Why, I reckon he musta graduated 3rd grade at least TWICE!

    • thetruth Says:

      Ah Shaddap ….. I have more education than your bitch ass….. I guess that pisses your welfare old ass off….. Now go yell at a bunch of kids on your front lawn or something.

      • Mike Says:

        “Ah Shaddap”

        No, I don’t think I will. :)

        “I have more education than your bitch ass”

        Yeah, it’s glaringly obvious that you’re highly educated. I bet MENSA is just kicking down your door to make you a member.

        “I guess that pisses your welfare old ass off”

        Unlike you, I work for a living. :)

      • thetruths Says:

        Have you broaden the definition of “working” to the effort you make walking to the mail box to pick up your welfare cheque? Okay whatever floats your boat…. See ya. I am out

  35. Prelude610 Says:

    Where’s the ban hammer?

  36. Mike Says:

    “Have you broaden the definition of “working” to the effort you make walking to the mail box to pick up your welfare cheque?”

    Unlike you, I actually do real work. :) But you seem to know a lot about being on welfare. Is it for a mental disability or are you just unable to convince anyone to hire you?

    “Okay whatever floats your boat…. See ya. I am out”

    You keep saying that, but you keep coming back to show us how uneducated you are. Why is that? Having trouble letting go? You poor thing. :)

  37. Cephas Borg Says:

    I think I have the makings of a fine Ph.D. thesis here…

    “How ‘dumasses’ project their limited capabilities onto others at the first sign of disagreement with their ill-informed and poorly articulated opinions.”

    If anyone remembers the scene in “The Shawshank Redemption”, where the inmate laughs at seeing Alexandre Dumas’ name on “The Three Musketeers”, you’ll see the immediate link to this poor little dude’s mentality…

    Like most christian apologists and zionist conspiracy theorists, thetruth started by spouting half-arsed, half-remembered, inherently invalid comments regarding a religion he knows next to nothing about, based on his reasoning and, er, “argumentation”.

    Then, when his comments, which appear to be identical in phrasing and grammatical errors to a typical ‘difficult’ 13-year-old’s, were refuted, he switched to ‘cuss’ words and ad-hominem attacks. Bible-belter, anyone?

    The problem for anyone trying to make sense of the ‘discussion’ he’s generated, is that he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of the most arbitrary and personalised put-downs; these can only be construed as projections of his own sorry state onto others.

    And, of course, he refuses to see when he’s beaten six ways from sunrise, and instead of learning something from the interaction, as most rational, mature human beings would, he continues to spit and spew hateful epithets at all and sundry.

    Like most christian apologists, he refuses to accept that he’s wrong on all counts, and instead self-destructs in a frenzy of personalised attacks. Yeah, that’s gonna change people’s minds, being called a ‘dumass’, welfare recipient, or a 40-year-old virgin (as if there’s anything wrong with those!)

    That’s why TF keeps posting. It’s illiterate, angry, psycopathic ranters like thetruth who make these posts worthwhile.

    Personally, I’d refute thetruth’s statements a little less aggressively to begin with, but then I dislike confrontation for its own sake. That’s just my take, though, and this horse has definitely bolted, cussing and swearing as he gallops into the arms of his sister…

    • Mike Says:

      “…being called a ‘dumass’, welfare recipient, or a 40-year-old virgin”

      Not to worry, I’ve been called much worse things by nicer people than him. :)

      And for the record, I lost my virginity at 14, I’ve never been on welfare, and although I may not be a super-genius I *can* spell ‘dumbass’ correctly without having to look it up. :) lol

    • thelies Says:

      I can profile “thetruth” quite accurately.
      1. Male – the “your mama” reference gave that away
      2. Muslim – He wants the Jews and Hindus to be made fun of, not just muslims- basically, he is offended
      3. Pakistani – the way he uses the word ‘than’ when he clearly means ‘then’. this is common Pakistani error.
      4. Age between 20 and 30
      5. Probably works/studies in the west

      • JohnDurandal Says:

        Yeah, calling Hindus a “race” also kind of gave it off.

        “Pakistani – the way he uses the word ‘than’ when he clearly means ‘then’. this is common Pakistani error.”

        Well to be fair, I think it’s a common mistake here in the US as well.

      • Thetruths Says:

        I am going to reply once more simply because I found this hilarious…… Only three things you said there are correct. I am a male and I am between 20 and 30 and I live in the west… But ofcourse no shit. I want the hindus to be made fun of? Well I never brought Hinduism into the conversation. I made myself clear that the only reason I mentioned Judaism was because it aligns with the abrahamic religions. I said criticize Hinduism to because he said why not Hinduism?

  38. Mike Says:

    How come you used the name “thetruth” in your original tirades, and now it’s “Thetruths”? Your spelling, grammar, and use of punctuation has improved suspici- I mean, “dramatically”.

    Somebody get some Troll-B-Gone and douse this louse.

  39. Rando Says:

    That silly zealot is just looking for attention again.

  40. Adam Sweilem Says:

    There are those who see Afghanistan as the crossroads of the world…

    And there are also those who realize that the current state of Afghanistan is due massive meddling by Western powers.

    • JohnDurandal Says:

      Well the second one is largely true. Afghanistan had a progressive (for the area) socialist government until the US basically went in and destroyed it. We are in part to blame for its current condition no doubt:

      Crossroads? Well no, in the grand scheme of things, it’s a backwater.

  41. Anonymous Says:

    Lets not forget, The US is an aggressive state bent on conquering whichever territory they like in order to further the agenda of the military industrial complex and resource acquisition. Though Dawahfilms seems to misunderstand that Afghanistan is a mess right now. Which government by whom is going to be in place after the US leaves? The Afghan people, Muslim extremists or remnants of the Taliban? I don’t really buy into all the propaganda from the US government but its not as clear cut is some people make it out to be. Remember when the Soviet Union went to Afghanistan? What about the weapons the US gave to the Taliban for the ol’ proxy war?

    “War is a rich man’s terrorism. Terrorism is a Poor Man’s War.”

    How are any of us supposed to realistically address these issues around the world when our governments lie to us and fail to give us real evidence. Who’s agenda are we fighting for?

    On a side note, I personally find Dawahfilms to be as despicable as any delusional religious person. But perhaps I’m intolerant?

    Oh and, bring the troops home and fix the United States failed foreign policy.

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