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Eric Hovind Confesses to being an Atheist!!!!

April 5, 2012

I greeted the materialization of pre-suppositional apologetics with glee. Creationists might as well have shouted it from the roof tops that they have been routed on every argument they have put forward to date, and so they are now reduced to this grotesquely unconvincing and childish argument that if they start with the presumption that god exists, then god exists.

Yup, pre-suppositional apologetics is an ‘argument’ that whatever you suppose exists, exists! I mean damn, it’s not like we can test those suppositions for validity against anything, like their value in reality or some shit.

So I had this PAINFUL discussion with Eric Hovind, in which I told him I assumed the universe exists. Why assume this? well how would you distinguish a ‘matrix style reality’ from reality? Well Eric, how would you?

After you have assumed the universe to exist, you then need to assume that you can create models about it, and that models with predictive capability are better than those that are not. These are self selecting criteria for beings that want to survive in such a universe, that is organisms that don’t assume they can learn something about the universe don’t survive long in an environment with those that do! (Yup, evolution FTW!)

One of the first models you establish is logic, and the utility of boolean operators like ‘true’ and ‘false’. These are all things Eric MUST have done to even pose his ‘killer’ question ‘is there such a thing as absolute truth?’

Merely asking the question implies a model forming approach to reality (implicit assumption), and indeed the very inclusion of the word true means that he has accepted models such as logic are an adequate way of describing the universe.

I guess it’s to be expected of the dogmatic that they will behave dogmatically, but Eric simply couldn’t handle the fact that this is how his brain worked, and how he models reality and thus his response to everything became ‘but you can’t be sure about it’, even after this has been explained to him a dozen time. In the end he made it up to FORTY EIGHT TIMES. Compulsive obsessives, this man is your GOD!

Even better, is if I adopt Erics ‘pre-suppositional’ position, that is whatever I presume is true, then I come to the startling knowledge that ERIC HOVIND IS AN ATHEIST.  Indeed if I start with the pre-supposition that Eric has confessed to being an atheist, then you KNOW that Eric Hovind has confessed to being an atheist! I know this is absolutely true because the Ghost that never lies told me it was absolutely true, further this was confirmed by title that is always accurate! hmmmm, yup, that’s Check-mate Eric!


Dawahfilms “Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives”

March 13, 2012

    Dawahfilms was always a pretty nasty piece of work, but his latest comments show a lust for violence that is really very unsettling.

Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives.
Courtesy of an Islamic Education at IIUM
The summary of the Mission should read as follows: Integration, Islamization, Internationalization, and Comprehensive Excellence

 

    The very tone of this paragraph is the presumption that Afghanistan would be better off without ‘the enemy’.  Well of course, but who is the enemy, ‘the West’ or Islam?  Well what about the Afghan ‘brothers and sisters’ that remember life under the Islamic rule, under the Taliban and want nothing to do with it?

Remember how great things were when we had Islamic Rule under the Taliban?

Those who see Afghanistan at a cross roads where it can choose to join the rest of the civilized world, or can revert to Taliban style Islamic law. After all, Afghanistan has already seen Islamic law for 5 years, and it transformed the country for the better, right?.. oh wait..

      The ’16’ dawahfilms refers to are from when a US service member went loco and went on a shooting spree killing many women and children (hardly a ringing endorsement!).  Not really a government sanctioned action to base a counter-policy on.  Similarly the idea that ‘the enemy’ (America?) who is curiously the very same government that Dawahfilms CHOOSES to remain a citizen of, is actually targeting families to ‘make them pay’ is a willfully puerile interpretation of  the US foreign policy.  IF the US had as its goal to kill families, I think they have the military capability to enact such a policy with greater efficiency than to merely kill 16 people.  To even suggest that ‘making their families pay’ is the intent of the US suggests a willfully malicious mis-interpretation of facts.  Further to do it as a motivation to ‘make your enemies pay’ with the stated goal that ‘Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives’ suggests a lust for a violent solution that seems to go hand in hand with taking Islam seriously as a religion.

    Look this is the thing, Gandhi, the British trained lawyer (University College London), knew that the British were ultimately an enlightened people of law, and that therefore he could achieve all of his goals (getting the Imperial power out of India) without violence.  Now let me ask you a similar question. How do you think Gandhi would have approached the situation if instead of getting a modern first world education he had attended an Islamic school?

“Peace will only be reached when they fear for their lives” (?)

RE: Youtube starts banning ‘religiously offensive’ videos

February 27, 2012

   To be honest when I first got the take down notices, about 6 of them in an hour or so (4 content inappropriate with no chance of appeal, and two privacy complaints) I thought,

‘another harassing and minor annoyance in running the channel.  A quick email to YT should sort it out.’

   I was then simply stunned when youtube claimed these videos had been reviewed by professional and impartial moderators and were removed for either hate speech or privacy violation.  The more so as some of these videos constituted some of the milder things I’ve said about religion.  The bottom line was, if this really was the new bar for hate speech, not only would it in an instant render the Thunderf00t channel unviable, it would render virtually every rationalist channel unviable.  Youtubes actions were simply unintelligible.  Indeed if someone had told me these were youtube actions, I simply wouldn’t have believed them.  But there were the words on the screen in black and white.

   I had no option but to make the video “Youtube starts banning ‘religiously offensive’ videos“.  There were simply no other alternatives.  A fairly high stakes game given that youtube could easily have said my action violated the terms of service and just killed the account.  But then again, if the words I had in black and white on the screen were correct, then channel was already dead, and the only thing left to do was give a good accounting of itself before the inevitable banhammer.

    By coincidence this happened about one week after the Hamza Kashgari incident.

Kashgari made about 3 vanilla tweets mildly critical of Islam only to find himself in fear for his life.  He fled Saudi, only to be arrested in Malaysia.  There he was deported back to Saudi with no due process to face a potential death sentence over three tweets.  That’s fucked up beyond ALL recognition.  But it really underscores the problem that religions find arbitrary things offensive.  Given this simple observation, having a clause in the Terms of Service about not offending religions is simply incoherent.

   If youtube really is willing to give religion this latitude of freedom, and to further scale what they consider ‘hate speech’ by how offended people are, then youtube would inevitably find itself in thrall to the Imams.  Many of them find anything that is not Islam offensive beyond comprehension, as was demonstrated by the Imam crying over the three tweets of Kashgari calling them ‘the worst thing he’d ever read’.

   So it was that I wrote potentially my last email to youtube asking them to apply whatever policy they had uniformly, which, taking ‘The Best emotional PORN‘ as the benchmark, would mean either about 7/10 of my videos would be hate speech, and they should delete them and ban my account, or reinstate the videos (which are vanilla compared to some of the videos on my channel).

The BEST emotional PORN, the new bar for ‘hate speech’,  Really?

   Thankfully, some 48 hrs later, with over 17000 thumbs up, well over a thousand mirrors and ~160k hits Youtube had a change of heart over what constituted hate speech.

   Now I have mixed feelings about this.  The Churchill quote about ‘The United States will always do the right thing…. once all other options have been exhausted’ kept coming to mind.

   Sure Youtube had done the right thing, and had the humility and plasticity to correct their previous mistake (a fairly honorable and humble act), but only once all other options had been exhausted.  You then look at what other options youtube had on the table (banhammer, ignore or stick to original judgment), and this is BY FAR the most dignified thing they could have done.

   So all things considered, I think this is as happy an outcome as could have been hoped for.  For the strong response of the community (and yes, it was the communal action that made this possible, for I as an individual had tried to take this to a sensible resolution and failed (I have the gut feeling it was not my email that swung the balance here)) ensured that free speech is maintained on this forum.

Many Thanks to all who made this outcome possible!

Debating William Lane Craig….

February 12, 2012

    Can you debate William Lane Craig? Well my immediate response is whats the point?  It’s quite easy to show that William Lane Craig essentially delivers exactly the same ‘debate’ almost by rote.

 

   Popular debates favor style over substance, which is why the ‘debate’ is an irrelevance in the acquisition of knowledge.  In areas of contention, you propose experiments capable of distinguishing the various proposed models.  You then go and perform said experiments and the knowledge of mankind moves forwards.   Notably Craig will NEVER makes any testable predictions, which is why his arguments never change and he never moves forward.

    In this sense you might as well ‘debate’ a recording of William Lane Craig as William Lane Craig himself, as intellectually the physical presence of the man adds nothing to the forum.  Incidentally, I can also tell you from personal experience that this is why watching William Lane Craig debates gets so terribly monotonous.  It really is ‘pull the draw string’ and watch the man espouse the rigorous gold standards of the virtues of logic immediately prior to remorselessly and unproductively sodomizing them with a large, rusty and particularly unpleasant looking metal pipe.

   Now none of that would actually be a problem if Craig was presenting some devastating argument that no one could address, but that’s simply not the case. Craig merely rattles off his ‘5 pillars’, conveniently forgetting to tell people that none of these arguments actually convinced him that god exists, they just form a conformational bias on his ‘personal interaction’ with god.  In that sense the only argument that actually needs to be addressed is the one that convinced Craig, and boy how simple it is to address!

   People all around the world have these personal interactions with different ‘Gods’.

The ‘gods’ people people have personal relationships with seem to depend remarkably on where in the world you live!

   Now Craig will be the first to stand up and say ‘but that doesn’t logically prove my God doesn’t exist’.  Well yeah sure, but it does put Craigs personal relationship with ‘God’ into the exact same deeply unconvincing category that Craig puts everybody elses ‘God’s into.  Bizarrely it is this exact deeply unconvincing argument that is the very foundation of Craigs belief in ‘God’, and it is upon these foundation of sand he builds his pillars of conformational bias.

I dub thee ‘Two Citations Craig’?

January 8, 2012

   It has been marvelously funny reading the comments defending ‘Two Citations’ Craig on my latest vid.  The superficial nature of these comments can maybe best highlighted by this hypothetical.

IF I had put up a video as ‘a professional scientist’ saying how Craig MIGHT be a good philosopher, but is merely a layman when it comes to science, and that as a professional scientist I find his arguments  very unsophisticated and frankly embarrassing. (all in an insipidly smug patronizing tone)

   Who seriously believes that these exact same people would have NOT gone absolutely ballistic highlighting the exact same problems with the vacuous nature of these arguments that I did.  Damn, I’m almost tempted to do it, yknow as one of those ‘Double-Check and Mate, sucker’ type moves.

   Anyways, it clearly got under the skin of these people to have it highlighted that their ‘leading academic’ has a pathetic citaion record. Nothing bites like the truth eh boys!.. Which leads to the obvious question:

Celebrate the Virtue of Killing Children for ‘God’

November 6, 2011

     You gotta love Abraham.  After all how much more can you show that you love ‘Gods Goodness’ than being willing to kill your own children!  Well I know some smart ass will come up and say, ‘actually sexually abusing them, torturing them, then killing them would be an even bigger test of faith’ but God didn’t ask that did he now.  He merely made voices in Abrahams head that said ‘KILL ISAAC! it’s the only way I can tell you believe in me.  KILLL ISSSAACCC!  Send him to the god he wished he could hear in his head!’

    Now I know there will be a lot of ‘atheists’ out there who will simply say ‘well why does God need this pointless and sick loyalty test if he’s omnipotent?’.  Well, that’s why you’re going to spend eternity burning in Hell, BECAUSE IT’S A TEST OF FAITH!

   And thats why every year some of the followers of the Abrahams God celebrate his faith by the festival of Eid al-Adha.

   Here at Eid al-Adha child-care, divinely inspired by Abrahams example, we will NEVER disobey God.

   It’s the next best thing to trusting Abraham with your children!

many thx to Emily @ Emilyhasbooks on twitter/FB for making the piccie

Dawahfilms, and the (lynch) PARTY!

October 26, 2011

     So it looks like Da-WAAHHHH-films has played all the cards in his hand.  His devastating ‘Thunderf00t, Game Over’ play being about as effective as his prayer and as impotent as his Allah.  Y’see he evidently hoped (against reality I might add) that this would be some devastating show stopper, but in reality it turns out that no one really cared what this one VERY whiney muslim with a victimhood complex was complaining about.

Delusional enough to believe in Islam? Why hold back? Why not claim to have won the game even while everything is proceeding exactly as it was before.

     So I find myself at a lose end for a few minutes flicking through his comments on his video, just for chuckles (and believe me there are plenty of them!), and what do I find, but yeah, apparently Da-Waaaah-films actually enjoys taking part in lynch parties with his muslim friends!

Don't like someone, why bother with law and order when you can take part in and enjoy a good old fashioned Islamic lynching!.

    Thats right, Da-wahhhh-films happily displaying the skills he’s learning at his muslim university which describes itself as ‘a garden of knowledge and virtue’.  Of course why would you waste your time with law, order and a judicial process when you have yourself an Islamic education and a lynch mob!

Islamic gardens of knowledge and virtue, known by the fruits of the lynch parties 'liked' by their students :-p

  Even more funny is the fact that Da-wahhhhh, the wannabe ‘Islamic scholar’ (similar to Toothpixie scholar) has found a new word to describe me and everyone who disagrees with him ‘sociopath’.

Losing the argument and shouting 'Bigot' not working? Try calling someone a sociopath, and hope no-one notices the projection!

Comically enough, wikipedia’s line one item for sociopathic behavior is:

‘failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest’ -wikis line one item on sociopathic behavior

   Hmmm, now I wonder how I would describe someone who says he ‘likes’ being part of a lynch mob.

Yeah Da-wahhhhhhhh, I’ve got another word for you to look up, PROJECTSHUUUNNNNNNN

    However while I must admit it’s been great fun watching dawahfilms puff himself up like a ‘big man’ in the delusion that, given the public forum, youtube, and the legal arena all thought he was a whiney little pussy, that somehow an Ivy League University would come to an ENTIRELY different conclusion, I really should try to draw a line under this.  Not so much because he doesn’t deserve it, as his actions have shown him to be a petty, spiteful and capricious man (probably from eating all that fruit from his Islamic ‘garden of knowledge and virtue’), but for pity.

     But regrettably, while there are a billion or so muslims in the world, the number stupid enough to 1) believe in this non-sense (things like ‘Mohammad was a perfect man and that god wanted him to have sex with this 9 year old girl, so it was all okay then’, and YES Dawahfilms is stupid enough to actually believe, and try to justify this),

When the best excuse you can think of for sleeping with a 9 year old girl is that, 'Allah told me to do it', your ass is going to jail! Well unless you are living among v. dumb and v. gullible camel herders!

and 2) try to defend it on a public and open forum, is comically small.  So yup, if Dawahfilms and Amenakin are dumb enough to try to promote such comically stupid ideas on a public forum, they can fully expect to get called on it, especially if they intend to profit of the institutional subjugation of women by islam, as is the case with Amenakin.

It’s NOT The-End-Of-The-World as we know it!

October 21, 2011

    So 6 months ago, on May 21st 2011 a guy called Harold Camping kindly predicted the end of the world, universe and Draw Mohammad Day based on his decades of scholarly studying of the Bible. Oddly enough the world did not appear to end as Camping had predicted, and so he was forced to conclude that the world had ‘sort of ended’ and ‘God’, being a sporting fellow had elected to end the world in a way that no-one would notice for 6 months, then it would REALLY end on 21st Oct 2011. Now the great thing is, Camping engaged in some massive billboard campaign about the end of the world, and while touring the US in the summer of 2011 I actually came across one of his billboards boldly proclaiming that the Judgement day actually happened MONTHS ago!  Guaranteed by the Bible no less!

Harold Campings 'End of the World MAY 21st 2011' photographed outside Rock Springs WY on Sept 26th 2011.

   Sadly when I went through California, ‘Family Radio’ was still going strong, seemly un-phased and un-bothered by the world hadn’t ended their ministry had claimed ‘the Bible ‘Guaranteed’.

Aronra, Healthyaddict, RabidApe n Thunderf00t, B0ss YT Atheist picture!

October 11, 2011

So at the Texas Freethought Convention there were many chanced to meet a lot of fun folks.  This is a piccie of Aronra, Healthyaddict, Rabidape and myself (Youtubers unite!) after we had dinner in the spinning restaurant atop the hotel!

 

Aronra (big), Healthyaddict (small), RabidApe (not hairy) n Thunderf00t (tall) all lookin BOSS!

For me this was my first time meeting Aronra, where I was surprised that I’m actually taller than the guy!  It’s always difficult to assess height though when you’ve only seen people from the nipple upwards.  Rabidape going way back was a guy I really respected and inspired me to really get into ‘new media’, and although he’s had a very extended break is planning to get back into the arena.  Btw this was the NEW healthyaddict, short, spicy n as GINGER as they come, figure she’s trying to become all 5 of the spice girls!

Made some really interesting connections at this conference, and it’s clear that this movement is ready to have its ‘arab spring’ so to speak.  Oh Yes, the ‘Atheist spring’ is on it’s way.  However that’s a story for another blog post as this one is currently being written in a Mcdonalds pitstop, just short of Erie!  Tonight I sleep in Ithaca w00t!  Although I have to be honest having lived out of my car now for some 3 months and with some 15000 miles on the clock, I’m really gonna miss it (*sniff*).

 

Amenakin, Censorin’ For Islam

October 2, 2011

     I’ve got a lot of issues with organized religions that use socially coercive methods in a ‘market dominance’ type situation to prevent people from leaving the religion. Islam is WAY out there in terms of the levels they are willing to go to enforce conformity, up to and including executing people. I mean not even the Scientologists or Mormons are that crazy. Can you imagine it if Scientology decrees that anyone who leaves the ‘Church’ shall be executed?’

     Islam basically wrote the rule book on socially coercive techniques to be used in ‘market dominance’ type situations. The most obvious one being praying 5 times day. The bell rings, and you will stand out if you don’t get on your knees and pray. Same with the head-wear for women, and the beard thing for men. Naturally when you look at it in terms of what the hell would an all powerful ‘God’ want with any of these things, its bloody silly:- WAY beyond comically ridiculous. However this seems to be a thought that is absent, presumed missing in many Muslim heads. Indeed there are even girls out there such as Amenakin who actively embraces such techniques, and in doing so she makes it that much harder for other women in her community to escape the oppression of women in Islam that is arguable the worst in the modern age.

     However that’s not my prime reason for making this video. This girl (Amenakin) has been abusing the DMCA, and I’m not going to stand by and allow the precedent to be set that some Islamic girl, offended by potholer54 calling bullshit on her pseudo science ramblings, should use the DMCA as a way of censoring for Allah.